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  Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. scandals

  this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

  i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

  a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

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  Island Man

  Today I thought of another response that might also work:

  "Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that Jesus is the one appointed to make the judgment as to whether his disciples in position of authority proved to be the faithful and discreet slave and appoint them over all his belongings; and that that judgment takes place in the future when he returns to execute judgment?
  Therefore, I beseech you brothers to give Jesus' authority, to Jesus, but my human limitations to me. My bible-trained conscience tells me it would be presumptuous of me to make a judgment as to who is or is not the faithful and discreet slave. I leave that Judgement for Jesus to make. It is even so written at 1 Corinthians 4:5:

  "Therefore, do not judge anything before the due time, until the Lord comes. He will bring the secret things of darkness to light and make known the intentions of the hearts, and then each one will receive his praise from God."

  So the brothers whom Jesus will finally judge as having proved to be the faithful and discreet slave do not need my judgment or approval of them being such - it is for Jesus to make that judgment and approval - nor do they need me to praise them as being the faithful and discreet slave - it is better that they get their praise from God rather than men. Don't you agree?"
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

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  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  Maybe they're gonna start to do their own secular news program on JW broadcasting; sell it to all the dubs as the most accurate and unbiased news broadcast on the planet so there is no need to watch any worldly news networks. That way dubs will never get to see any negative news stories on JWs, such as the Australia Royal Commission investigation of JWs handling of child abuse.
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  They know something’s up.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we have the convention this weekend and many jw families are arriving.

  one family that ive known for many years from new mexico stopped by to visit my mom.

  hes been an elder since the 80s.

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  You sure shut down his judgmental, "come back to the Truth" prodding "like a boss"!
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  Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

  i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

  a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

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  The elders will shoot that response down very quickly by saying that Geoffrey Jackson is not the faithful and discreet slave - that the faithful and discreet slave is only operational when the governing body is acting collectively. Thus Geoffrey Jackson's words to the commission does not carry the weight that you think it does. They will say he was only following Jesus' counsel to be cautious as a serpent but innocent as a dove. They will say that Geoffrey Jackson merely said that it would "seem to be presumptuous" not that it actually was presumptuous, and that he went on to mention the faithful slave arrangement in Matthew 24:45.
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  After the 'imitate jesus' RC whats next...?

  by _Morpheus in

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  2. beliefs

  imitate the desert god.

  yep.

  the ca for the upcoming year is entittled "imitate [insert desert god name]" so for the public at large its jesus but *wink wink* we really mean the desert god.

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  Next is the annual meeting in October. I wonder if there will be any "new light" regarding the two witness rule...
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  Beroean Pickets

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

  although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

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  Initially he was pro-JW but awake to the shortcomings of the organization and its teachings and not afraid to point them out. He considered the Governing Body as being perhaps honest-hearted but wrong, while still believing that JWs are Jehovah's people.

  Over time he has come to the conclusion that the Governing Body are deliberately misleading JWs. He now does not think it necessary to be part of the JW organization and thinks true christians are not limited to the JW group and any one group.
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  Do you think the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime or a terrible act of war ?

  by truthseeker100 in

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  2. current

  i believe that the bombings shortened the war in the pacific and probably saved countless lives.

  i am not an expert on this subject but given the times it was probably the correct and moral thing to do.. what say you all?.

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  It was definitely a war crime. How can anyone honestly argue that detonating an atomic bomb over a city filled with civilians (twice!), condemning many of them to a slow agonizing death as their badly irradiated flesh dripped from their bones, was a justified act and not a war crime? How can deliberately killing tens of thousands of civilians not be a war crime? There is no justification for this.

  Had this act been done by Hitler or any other country at war with the US it would most certainly be called a heinous war crime. But when the US does horrible things in war while fighting the "bad guys" their horrible actions is given special treatment.

  A bomb could have been detonated over an uninhabited nearby atol to demonstrate to the Japanese that they were out-gunned and needed to surrender. The war was already winding down. I don't buy the explanation that it saved more lives by cutting the war short.

  Had the bombs not been dropped, the war would not have continued for much longer anyway. Also, in conventional war the lives lost are mostly soldiers who go out to fight knowing the risk to their lives. It would have been mostly soldiers who would have died had the war been allowed to run out its last few days and not the tens of thousands of innocent civilians that were killed by the atomic bombs. There is a difference between killing soldiers and killing civilians.

  I think the motive for dropping the bombs were more about testing their capability and effects than about ending the war.
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  "hare krishna hare krishna; krishna krishna hare hare; hare rama hare rama; rama rama hare hare"

  by Island Man in

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  2. entertainment

  man, this mahamantra is some real hypnotic music!

  it's weird, pleasurable, hypnotic and cult-like all rolled into one.

  lol.

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  Island Man

  In case anyone has thoughts of joining:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpsv-I36TDo
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Headquarters Refuses to Answer Questions about Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well worth listening to if you have not already.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smerwqrw6no.

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  Is that a latino accent it doesn't sound american?

  That sounds like a Chinese accent. She could be South Korean, Taiwanese, Hong Kong, etc.
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  "hare krishna hare krishna; krishna krishna hare hare; hare rama hare rama; rama rama hare hare"

  by Island Man in

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  man, this mahamantra is some real hypnotic music!

  it's weird, pleasurable, hypnotic and cult-like all rolled into one.

  lol.

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  Island Man

  Man, this mahamantra is some real hypnotic music! It's weird, pleasurable, hypnotic and cult-like all rolled into one. lol. This is music that insular brainwashed JWs will never enjoy because of their fear of it being demonic.

  It's good for the first 10 to 15 minutes but then it starts to get monotonous - as can be expected with any religion that focuses on chanting:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vofoqsZ71QQ